Scraps of History Concerning the Definite and Possible Branches of the Family Tree
This post will be updated when possible with new information.
I believe this to be one of the most comprehensive studies of the possible detached Mongey family members. This has taken several years of diligent work to untangle each lineage to the best of my ability, given the information at hand. I recognize that not all people included here are connected to the Mongey family from Slane. In fact, many people included below are unlikely to be related, but they are included for posterity’s sake so the research is not continually redone.
It must be said that almost any variation of “Mongey” may certainly be related to the family tree that Tom Mongey of Dublin and Larry Mongey of Dungarvan spent their lives recording. Any “Mingey” families from Ireland are suspect, though I have not been able to conclude that all Mingey varieties in Ireland branch from our tree. Other spellings such as Mankey, Monkey, Mangan, et al. were considered and recorded if a fact overlapped with the known family history, for instance, if the person came from Ireland or was a stone mason. Unfortunately, “Mangan” turns up over 10,000 entries in the Irish civil registry, so on the off chance our name was incorrectly recorded, it would be like finding a needle in a haystack. There are numerous examples of the Mangan name within Meath alone, not to mention the Monger, Munger, and Manger varieties.
Further complicating the matter are immigration records showing Great Britain as the place of origin, as that might include England as well as Ireland. Furthermore, it is possible that some distant relatives may have entered the workhouses in England. My search did not expand far into England and focused almost exclusively on names from Ireland and as many variations as caught the eye in the United States and Canada, specifically in Ontario.
The reason these are included is because of my own struggle to ascertain which branch of the Mongey family tree my Thomas Augustus Moungey descended from. It is clear through Ancestry DNA that our line through Thomas is inextricably linked to William (abt. 1794) and Mary Mongey of Dunderk, who was one of the original stone mason brothers in Slane, whose parents were Laurence and Margaret Mongey from Barstown (abt. 1749 to the 1810s). Most matches are through the descendents of Laurence “Larry the Horseman” Mongey (abt. 1820-1886) of Causestown Stud, the son of William the stone mason. The only other strong matches appear through the line of Edward Mongey, later “Mingey,” specifically through his son Thomas (1842) and daughter Catherine (1854), who married Patrick Hoban and later William Cullen. At least four DNA matches, two of reasonable centimorgan length, stem from both of these lineages. Tom Mongey believed that Edward was the son of Thomas and Kitty Mongey of Causestown (Thomas being the son of Laurence from Barstown). If this were the case, it would solidify the argument that Thomas Augustus Moungey descended from the Laurence of Barstown (abt. 1749). A lesser match was discovered through the same Laurence’s son, Patrick (abt. 1783) with his wife, Judy; this was through his son John and wife Anne Hand, and their son Thomas with his wife Julia Forde. The same is true for a match with a descendent of Mary Mongey, who married Thomas Clynes; she was the daughter of the stone mason Laurence Mongey (abt. 1799), son of Laurence (abt. 1749) and also one of the original brothers. Another four DNA matches point to a relation to Michael Moungey (abt. 1830) who died in New Orleans from a gunshot wound; these were only uncovered after working backwards from the common location of Mobile, Alabama—a place not referenced on my family tree outside of Michael’s family—and discovering that a daughter, Margaret (born abt. 1862 or 1869), had evaded my initial work. After some complicated research, it was determined that Michael Moungey must be related, though the degree to which is still undetermined. I believe William Moungey of Pensacola, Florida to be his brother and that they immigrated together to New Orleans.
And outlier match was discovered through another United States Moungey descendent of James Napoleon Moungey and the line of Willaim Mongey (abt. 1752) and Elizabeth Farrelly. However, this match descended from both the lines of William Mongey and Catherine McGuirk (he was the son of Thomas Mongey and Mary McGuire of Slane) and Laurence Mongey and Mary Lawless (he was the son of Laurence Mongey and Mary of Abelstown). Of the marriage of approximately second cousins, the tree converges with William Mongey and Elizabeth Farelly. This is a point of contention in untangling the most plausible ancestry for Thomas Augustus Moungey. However, given this distant match beyond Laurence of Barstown, it would effectively set the closest common ancestor back to the original Patrick Mongey of Slane (abt. 1710 to 1774) who settled in Barstown and Deerpark. Given this proximity, it stands to reason that other descendents of closely-related kin with higher centimorgan values are most logically our nearest relatives. For this reason, I believe Larry the Horseman might be our Thomas Augustus Moungey’s brother. However, the close match with descendents of Edward Mongey cannot be discounted and further complicate the search for our true heritage.
As a final note about lineage, Irish and Scottish naming customs might be considered. Thomas Moungey and Isabella Smaill had the following children:
- Elizabeth Minnie Moungey
- Mary Margaret Moungey
- William Alexander Smaill Moungey
- John Thomas Moungey
- James Napoleon Moungey
- Isabella Rose Moungey (also “Rose Gray”)
According to FamilySearch, Irish naming customs were as follows:
- First son usually named for the father’s father
- Second son usually named for the mother’s father
- Third son usually named for the father
- Fourth son usually named for the father’s eldest brother
- Fifth son usually named for the mother’s eldest brother
- First daughter usually named for the mother’s mother
- Second daughter usually named for the father’s mother
- Third daughter usually named for the mother
- Fourth daughter usually named for the mother’s eldest sister
- Fifth daughter usually named for the father’s eldest sister.
Working from the assumption William Mongey and Mary Martin are the parents of Thomas Moungey, band based on naming conventions, I believe the following might be true:
- Elizabeth Minnie, named after Elizabeth Mathison, Isabella’s mother.
- Mary Margaret, Mary possibly named after Thomas’s grandmother, Margaret after Thomas’s grandmother or Isabella’s sister
- William Alexander Smaill, William named after Thomas’s father, Alexander after Isabella’s grandfather or brother, and Smaill in Scottish fashion of using an ancestor’s surname as a middle name.
- John Thomas Moungey, John named after Isabella’s father, Thomas after his own father
- James Napoleon, James named after Isabella’s brother—I’m led to believe John Smail’s father might have been James, since his first-born son was named James. However, the only record of a birth for John that I could find was on November 9, 1793 in (Mailingsland) Peebles to the weaver John Smeal and Mary Noble. This is not confirmed to be the same John Smail found in Carterhaugh as a laborer around the time of his marriage. The origins of Napoleon are unknown, but suggest something of a French origin. Few, if any, references to Napoleon can be found and appear irrelevant due to the peoples’ ages at the same time James was born.
- Isabella Rose (also “Rose Gray”), Isabella after her own mother, Rose possibly after one of Thomas’s relatives, and Gray after Isabella’s paternal grandmother, Isabel Grey.
What is Known About Thomas Augustus Moungey
My great-grandmother had the entire family tree spanning the length of the dining room table. If memory serves me correctly, she had worked with one of her sisters on it. My grandfather remembered seeing it. Unfortunately, this important piece of history was burned with the desk it was stored in and “other junk” after my great-grandma’s death.
She was one of seven children who were split up in their youth. My great-great grandfather, the son of Thomas Augustus Moungey, James Napoleon Moungey, spent the remainder of his life trying to piece the family back together. While I always hungered to know more about my Irish heritage, it was this solemn desperation that drove my initial hunt for information. Could I find all of his children and discover their fates, especially regarding his son, James?
Beyond the immediate family, there appeared to be few, if any, sources that recorded the earliest history. Sharon Pearson recorded a large swath of the family history for the Moungey-Randall side in her book, Chronicles of Christopher C. Randall and His Descendants. This book was fundamental to understanding the family’s life and origins in Ontario. DNA testing allowed me to discern without a shadow of a doubt that our American Moungeys originated with the Mongey family of Slane, Meath, Ireland. Further probing into the records of North Dumfries, Waterloo, Ontario helped establish several more generations for Thomas’s wife, Isabella Josephine Smaill, whose family emigrated from Scotland. However, more records concerning the most basic of details for Thomas Moungey were elusive. Searching through the Presbyterian records of Ayr in North Dumfries did little to help.
Some family trees show Thomas being born in 1830, though no other written documentation backs this up. Additionally, other trees list his place of birth as Donegal with no further proof. It is possible that this was inspired by other Mongey records from Ardee in County Louth; some indexes misappropriate this Ardee as the townland of Ardee in County Donegal.
The information surviving for Thomas Augustus Moungey scarcely agrees with itself. There was a Thomas E. Mongey living in Detroit, Michigan in 1856, employed as a machinist at Fulton Iron Works. The same city directory shows “Thos. Mungy” residing at C. Carmody’s residence. Although this is the only reference to Thomas in Detroit, a William Mongey was printed in a list of letters remaining in the post office on May 1, 1849. Whether this is the same William Moungey from Pensacola or another is debatable. What is most interesting is that it establishes the earliest timeframe for when our Moungey family was likely in the United States.
Importantly, Thomas was a machinist in Guelph in 1861. This establishes a connection between earlier information found in Detroit, as he probably moved north in search of work. DNA matches to the family of Patrick Reilly may provide cause as to why the Moungey family moved from Ontario to Wisconsin. Furthermore, DNA matches with the family of Bridget Mongey who married Thomas Mullen establish a potential link to the machinist trade. Perhaps Thomas learned his trade alongside a cousin. This is, of course, a supposition based on currently available information to establish a likely case. It is possible that Thomas Moungey immigrated with other members of the Mongey family, potentially aunts, uncles, and cousins. Whether he arrived through the port of New York City, Philadelphia, or New Orleans is not known. Earlier, I had believed him to have arrived in Canada—most likely Quebec—prior to the keeping of ship manifests that survive to this day. The loss of the 1851 Census records for North Dumfries and Guelph in the specific areas the family was known to inhabit was a tremendous blow to this research. However, the discovery of a Mongey family living in Detroit as early as 1849 and as late as 1856 establishes that perhaps the family first lived in the United States.
It is likely that Thomas married Isabella Smaill (also, Smail, Smaile, Smailla, and a variety of other spellings) in 1858 or 1859, as their first recorded daughter was born in January 1860. No birth or baptism records have been found for any of the children in Ontario. Likewise, no record of their marriage has been found to date.
Isabella must have spent her childhood in North Dumfries, which is where her father, John Smail, originally settled after immigrating in February 1831. It was said that she was born on the Atlantic on the way to America, which, if her birth date is accurate, would indicate the journey occurred in the late winter of early 1831. Records of her Mathison relatives on her maternal side indicate that they moved to Ontario by way of Quebec, and likely within a short time. According to a heritage impact assessment report for North Dumfries: “The settlement at the intersection of Reidsville Road and Alps Road dates from August 11, 1831 when John Reid, John Mathieson, Thomas Cleghorn, Andrew Mathieson, and John Smail purchased portions of lots 29-31 of Concession 9 and subsequently constructed a sawmill (Waterloo Region, 2020). The subject property is located on part of the South half of Lot 30, Concession 10. The hamlet was named after John Reid, who established the Reids Mills (Taylor, 1970).”
It is my belief, based on the 1851 Census, that Isabella was living alone in the Township of Brantford and that she was Catholic. This is substantiated by a James Smeal (in later records, Smail) working as a carpenter in the nearby city of Paris that same year; he would eventually move to Goderich. I believe that he is the same James Smail that immigrated with Isabella’s parents. In 1851, Isabella’s place of birth is listed as Scotland. Her change of religion rather than the incorrect birth location is more intriguing. Isabella’s family should have been Presbyterian since they were Scottish. The Moungey family would later be part of the little Inch Methodist Church in Poynette, Wisconsin, which might be more closely related to the Evangelical Union religion provided on the 1871 Census; Evangelical Union was similar to Wesleyan Methodism. Isabella’s future husband, coming from Ireland, should have been Roman Catholic. Her mother, Elizabeth Smail, nee Mathison, could not be located in the 1851 Census, but was living in Guelph in 1861 with Thomas Cleghorn, both Confessionalists, who had removed there from North Dumfries. Ontario land records show it likely that they left sometime around 1857 based on the documented memorials appearing to show a transfer of land to John Mathison with conditions for Elizabeth Mathison Smail, keeping some rights for their natural lives. Elizabeth lived a stone’s throw away from where the Moungey family lived in 1861. Isabella’s declaration of citizenship in the United States, dated November 23, 1903, claimed that she lived in Stanley, South Dakota, having been born in Scotland in 1831 and emigrated to the United States at the Port of New York in April of 1855. This information conflicts with what is concretely known about the family. It begs the question as to if Isabella was sly, lying on the form to sway the decision for citizenship, or was she prescribing Thomas’s immigration information on her own declaration? If so, Thomas Moungey may have immigrated first to the United States in or around 1855. I am less inclined to believe that, unless there were other relatives that lived in the United States first.
I digress, Thomas Moungey’s first mention in Ontario was the 1861 Census. His residence was near that of William Cowan in the south quarter of the township, which was right on the railway line. He was listed as “Thos Mongy,” a machinist living in the Township of Guelph. For whatever reason, the census appears to concatenate information. His wife, Isabella, is not shown; instead, his wife is named Elizabeth—consequently the name of his first-born daughter, 22 years of age. The only daughter listed is Mary, age 1. Most peculiarly, the census was started on January 14, 1861, a full eight months before his daughter, Mary, would have been born. Perhaps the birth years recorded in later records were remised by a year. Thomas was also the only machinist recorded in all of the pages for the Township of Guelph during that census year, although several blacksmiths were noted. Both he and his wife were supposedly 26 years old at the time, which would place their years of birth as 1834 or 1835. His wife was allegedly born in Upper Canada, while he was born in the United States. The family was Roman Catholic, meaning at least some of the children’s baptisms should have taken place in a Catholic Church. Correspondence with the Basilica of Our Lady in Guelph revealed that there were no baptismal records for the Moungey family during this time period. The Moungeys lived in a single-story frame house on one and a half acres while their neighbors lived in log houses; they were the only family to reside within their abode. They had three pigs worth only twelve dollars in value.
Isabella’s mother died on December 17, 1865. By the 1871 Census of Canada, they were living in North Dumfries in Concession 8. I wonder if they moved because of her death, as the property that Elizabeth previously owned was further north in Concession 9, Lots 28 and 29.
Though the lot number was not provided, careful examination of the census and other available sources led me to believe they lived in close proximity to Lot 30. This was just south of Reid’s saw mill and where the Smail family originally purchased land. It was my belief that they lived on the quarter where the old Ayr Cemetery used to be located, which was next to Mrs. (Agnes?) Haddow’s property just west of McCrone’s Lakes. Even more, descendents of neighbors also made their journey to settle in Wisconsin. Memory eludes me if they were the families of Haddow, Sudden, Cowan, or possibly another family entirely. On the census, Thomas A. “Munger” was a laborer, 33 years old (born approximately 1838) in England but of Irish descent, and that the family belonged to the Evangelical Union religion. His place of birth becomes an interesting musing; throughout other pages enumerated in North Dumfries, other Irish are recorded as being born in Ireland, though some recorded Ontario. The question then becomes whether or not Thomas was born in England. The possibility exists that the answer of “England” given could perhaps be explained that Ireland was under English control. Isabella, his wife, was shown to be married to him and of “Scotch” descent. Their children were: Elizabeth M. (age 11), Mary M. (age 9), and William A. (age 7)—all three of whom were attending school—John T. (age 5), James N. (age 4), and Isabella (age 5/12, born in November). All children were listed as “English” and born in Ontario. The census was taken in April of 1871, so it is again peculiar why dates do not line up with recorded information, especially where daughter Isabella was born in September. One final note about the information recorded in 1871, I often wonder if Thomas’s age was misheard with the Irish accent, if perhaps it was 43. On this recensement, his wife Isabella’s age appears to be correct.
To date, neither Elizabeth nor Mary has confirmed places of birth. The delayed birth certificate for William’s son, Claude, provides William’s birthplace in 1863 as Guelph; additionally, this is supported by his naturalization. John’s marriage certificate confirms his birthplace as Guelph in 1865. James is mentioned to have been born in Guelph in 1867 by an entry on FindAGrave.com. Isabella’s birth in 1870 also does not list a location.
The next and final source for the Moungey family in Ontario is the Armstrong and Co’s: County of Waterloo Gazetteer and Directory for 1878. The inside cover clarifies that it was for 1877-1878, published in 1878. Here, the listing shows “Thomas Mungo” with an “h” next to his name (I’m uncertain what this abbreviation could stand for outside of “head of household.”) The earlier question of which lot Thomas lived in is clarified, showing Concession 8, Lot 31. This is most likely the property of Walter Turnbull. It could be assumed that the family was still in North Dumfries in 1877.
The timeline for when the family emigrated from Canada to the Wisconsin is also inconsistent, but within a given timeframe. For certain, Isabella “Moungy” was in Chetek, Wisconsin by the 1880 Census with William A. (a farmer at 16), John (a farm laborer at 14), James (shown as Napoleon, age 12, at home), and Isabella (shown as Rosa, age 9). James Mathieson (shown as Matheson) was listed as a cousin (actually Isabella’s nephew), further evidencing a move from Ontario with family. This census also lists their father as being born in England.
Elizabeth M. “Monnger” married Walter Mack on March 27, 1879 in Madison, Wisconsin; he was from Poynette. It is unclear why they married in Madison. In 1900, she noted that her father was born in Ireland and that she immigrated to the U.S. in 1878. In 1910, she confirmed the same information that her father was Irish-English and that she came to the U.S. in 1878. Mary M. “Munger” was married on November 27 1879 to Warren Estabrook in Sand Creek, Dunn County. He was from Dekorra, Wisconsin on the 1870 Census, where the Moungey family would eventually move back towards. On the 1880 Census, Mary also noted her father’s birthplace as England. Her 1885 marriage to Charles Jellings accurately reflected her surname as “Mongey.” Isabella Rose Moungey’s marriage to James Otis Randall recorded that “Rose.G. Moungay” was the daughter of “Thomas B. Moungay” and “Isabel Moungay.”
William’s petition for naturalization helps fill in key details. On September 22, 1913, his petition’s witnesses claimed that they knew he resided within the United States continuously since June 25, 1888. William recorded that he emigrated from Ayr, Canada on April 15, 1877 and arrived at the United States at the port of Port Huron, Michigan on May 10, 1877. The vessel on which he traveled was “not known.” He declared his intent to become a citizen on October 29, 1884 through the circuit court for Columbia County in Portage, Wisconsin. He resided within Wisconsin for a period of five years following May 10, 1877 and then continuously after May 25, 1892.
John’s petition for naturalization corroborates the information given by William. John stated that he emigrated from Ayr through Port Huron on May 15, 1878 by “driv[ing] a team.” His affidavit swore, “When I was 21 years of age, my mother told me I was a citizen through my father, who had died in Canada after going there from [the] U.S., however, to make sure I took out first paper on 11/7/92 at Portage, Wisconsin and believed this made me a citizen of the United States.” He continued, “Recently when applying for old age pension, I learned I was not a citizen through such first paper and knew nothing about my father’s citizenship so [I] could not prove I was a citizen. His citizenship was denied because he died about two weeks after making his petition for naturalization.
The 1900 Census for Isabella shows she immigrated in 1879 and that she was widowed. This presents an interesting perspective. According to Ina Mae Randall, “Thomas ran off and left the family and rose never even wanted to discuss him.” However, William’s petition for citizenship helps to clearly establish that they immigrated in mid-spring. The discrepancy between his and John’s information might be solved. James Napoleon Moungey’s obituary said he came to Wisconsin from Canada at the age of ten. If this were to be true, one might consider his birthday in July. For him to have reached ten years, spring of 1877 must have elapsed. The 1900 Census substantiates this, noting his immigration year as 1878. This might explain why the family was recorded in North Dumfries in 1877 for the 1878 directory publication, yet likely were not living there when it was circulated in 1878.
Although this might resolve when the Moungey family moved to the United States, it leaves so much open to question regarding Thomas Moungey. Still without any vital facts—not birth, not marriage, and not death—his life story can scarcely be verified. Was he born in Ireland, England, or the United States? Did he truly immigrate through New York or did he enter through another, and was he travel with family? Lastly, did he die in North Dumfries—and if so, why is there no record of his death, grave, obituary, or another? Did the family decide to immigrate because of his death or did he die on the way? Or possibly, did he abandon his family, causing them to leave Ontario or did he desert on the way? What was in Wisconsin that Isabella picked up her family to head towards, especially in Chetek when they would settle in Poynette? Much, at this point, remains to be resolved.
This section is divided into three parts: those who are almost certainly related, those who are possibly related, and those who are unlikely but are still included for review in the future.
People are marked with the following:
The Irish flag indicates an unbroken family lineage with connecting relatives back to Ireland. The trail may stop cold in Ireland.
The shamrock shows those who must certainly be connected to the Mongey family tree in Ireland but are missing connecting relatives.
A double helix indicates a relation substantiated by DNA evidence.
The harp is designated for people who have been concretely placed on the Mongey family tree, descended from Nicholas Mungey who died March 30, 1727, as memorialized on the historical gravestone by his grandson, “Nic Monguy,” in 1763 on the Hill of Slane. These individuals are kept in this study for posterity’s sake.
My own personal thoughts and questions are often indicated in italics below.
Almost Certainly Related
Bridget Mongey (also “Monguey”)
DNA confirms a link between Bridget Mongey through Thomas E. Mullen’s son, George Francis Mullen. The DNA is shared between at least three descendants of Thomas and Bridget, living Mongey families still bearing the name, and the lineage of Edward Mongey (later Mingey) through his son Thomas. I question whether Laurence Mongey and his wife Margaret, of Barstown, might have had a daughter not recorded with the original five Mongey brothers.
The History of Northumberland County, Pennsylvania lists John Mullen’s parents as Thomas Mullen and Mary Mongey; the latter appears to be a mistake by the authors of the book, as John’s death certificate aligns with census records that Bridget Mongey was his mother. This does raise the question about Mary Monahan, discussed below, and whether information about her is reliable.
Born: abt. 1807 in Ireland
Husband: Thomas Mullen (born abt. 1805 or 1807 in Ireland, died October 9, 1853 in Port Carbon.)
Immigrated to the United States in 1831.
- Patrick (born December 1 1835, died March 13, 1848)
- Anne (born July 13, 1836, died March 17, 1885)
- John (born February 27, 1838, married Mary Bridget O’Brien on September 3, 1861, died September 22, 1921). He served in the Union Army.
- Edward J. (born abt. 1840, died November 30, 1894)
- Thomas E. (born December 1, 1843, married Rose E. Carr, died May 29, 1892, buried in Coal Township)
- Mary (abt. 1846)
- James (born abt. 1849, died February 22, 1854),
All born in Pennsylvania with the exception of Patrick’s birth place not being found in my search.
1850 Census: residing in Town of Port Carbon, East Norwegian Township, Schuylkill, Pennsylvania. Thomas Mullen was a laborer. John Linch, a boatman, was listed further down the page.
1860 Census: Bridget lived widowed with her children John and Edward (both moulders), Thomas, and Mary. Patrick Mullen, age 30, a boatman, is on the same census page (he was the son of Thomas Mullen and Mary Monahan).
1870 Census: Bridget and Edward “Mullin” reside together.
1880 Census: Edward was listed as the head of the residence with Bridget and two boarders (Mathew and Anna Burns (Byrnes, Anna being Bridget’s daughter)—the husband worked at the foundry).
John Mullen was the incorporator of the first lighting plant, was the head of John Mullen and Son Iron Foundry for 30 years. His learned trade was that of a machinist and iron moulder.
Thomas Mullen and Mary Monahan
Listed on some family trees as Mary “Mongey.” It is my belief that Mary and Bridget are sometimes mixed up because they were both married to Thomas Mullens and were of similar age. Possibly in Schuylkill as early as 1830, though unsure of which Thomas Mullen is mentioned in the census.
Thomas Mullen: born abt. 1798, 1800, or 1804 in Ireland, a native of the Parish of Slane. He was likely baptized December 14, 1798 in Navan, Ireland. Died April 26, 1867 in Port Carbon.
Mary Monahan: born abt. 1807 or 1808 in Ireland. Died August 11, 1865.
Children: James, Mary Anne, Catharine
A Thomas Hartican is listed on the same census page in 1850.
It is interesting to learn that this branch of the Mongey family was involved with metal moulding, foundry work, and machinist professions. Could this be a direct link to Thomas Augustus Moungey’s trade and profession before he likely found work in Detroit in 1856? The Shamokin Iron Works was started in 1838.
Born: abt. 1847 in Meath, Ireland
Named in emigrant savings bank records in New York. Family relations: fa. Andrew m. Alice Caffrey.
She is likely the daughter of Andrew Mingey and Alicia Caffrey of Drumconrath, as outlined by Tom Mongey’s supplemental work to his 2000 publication.
Born: abt. 1830 in Ireland.
Immigrated: abt. 1860
Died: May 20, 1900. Buried in Holy Cross Cemetery, Brooklyn, New York. Died single.
Daughter of Thomas. Both mother and father were from Ireland.
Catherine Mongay (same as above?)
Born: abt. 1831 in Ireland
1850 Census: living with Grove and Fowler in Brooklyn, New York
Born: abt. 1841 in Ireland
1861 Census: residing in the parish of St. Matthias in Liverpool, a servant in the household of Joseph and Salome Hoult with lodger Michael Murrey.
Catherine -, married Mongey
Born: abt. 1810 in Ireland
1900 Census: 90 years old, widowed, an inmate of the St. Ann’s Roman Catholic Widow’s Asylum in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.
Born: abt. 1812 in Ireland
Died: August 4, 1892 in Collierstown, Skryne, Meath, Ireland of the parish Dunshaughlin, 80 years old. Tom Mongey listed him as born abt. 1821, surmising that Edward was Tommy and Kitty’s son. Died as “Edward Mingey.” Witnessed by his daughter, Mary Cullen.
Married to Rose Hand (sometimes written “Swan”), who was born abt. 1815 and died March 05, 1877 in Dunshaughlin, age 62.
His children were:
- Thomas Mingey, born March 20, 1842 in Collierstown and died on February 13, 1926, buried in Old Cathedral Cemetery in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. Married to Catherine Beatty. He immigrated to the U.S. around 1872 or 1873 from England. He was a gardener in Kew, moving to England in 1864 to study horticulture at New Gardens outskirts of London. Graduated from Kew Horticulture. His 1880 Census lists Bridget, age 55, as his mother—what does this mean?
- Laurence Mingey, born abt. 1844 in Collierstown, and died on May 08, 1923 in Hyde Park, Dutchess, New York. Married to Julia Catherine Coffey.
- John Mingey, Tom Mongey listed him as born in 1846. He was of Skryne and Rathfeigh. Connection not established. Possibly born between 1835 and 1841, according to census records.
- Julia Mingey, born abt. 1849 in Collierstown, and died in 1870 in Dunshaughlin.
- Patrick Mingey (Mingy), born abt. 1851 and baptized in Skryne. Possibly enlisted in the Grenadier Guards in 1879. Tom lists his birth as 1857 in Collierstown. His baptismal sponsors were Thomas Mingy and Ann Russell.
- Catherine Mingey, born August 1854, “Kathrine.” Assumed Edward is her father. Tom listed her as born c. 1852 in Collierstown. Otherwise, just Ireland. Immigrated abt. 1872 to the United States. Married Patrick Hoban abt. 1877. Married William Cullen on December 01, 1907 in Pleasant Valley, Dutchess, New York.
- Mary Mingey (Mingy), born abt. 1860 and baptized in Skryne. Married to William Cullen on February 23, 1892 in Dunshaughlin. She was of Collierstown and he was from Skryne. The same William Cullen married her sister, presumably after her death.
- Rose R. Mingey, born abt. June 1865 per census records. There was a Rose Mingy baptized on July 13, 1857 in Skryne. Tom Mongey listed her as being born c. 1856. She was married to Samuel Carden.
DNA confirms a connection to the Mongey tree through two descendents of Edward Joseph Mingey, the son of Thomas Mingey; two descendents of John William Hoban, son of Catherine Mingey.
Thomas Mingey was given as the sponsor for Julia Mingey. A Thomas Mingey was also a sponsor for Pat Bennett and Mary Cullen’s son William in 1859 with Julia Caffrey.
Ellen Menghy Arland
Born: abt. 1856 in Brooklyn, New York.
Died: November 24, 1909 in Brooklyn
Her death certificate states that her parents were Michael Menghy and Bridget Casan, both who were born in Ireland. She was buried in Holy Cross Cemetery.
Born: abt. 1800.
Died in 1870 in Navan, Ireland, age 70. (Civil register volume 7, 1870)
Unsure if this Francis Mongey is the same as the son of Thomas Mongey and Mary McGuire, of Slane, born abt. 1826 and died in 1885 with no record of his death.
Petty session court records document Francis Mongey for the following dates. Whether the same or different individuals is not ascertained, but appear to align with his date of death as no appearances are made after 1870.
- August 1, 1852 – of Slane, mason, defendant, being drunk at Slane on the 1st.
- August 6, 1852 – of Slane Pound, a mason, defendant, assault at Slane on the 1st.
- April 4, 1853 – of Slane, defendant, drunk on the public street on the 1st.
- February 26, 1858 – of Slane Pound, complainant, violent assault in the house of James Curtis of Slane on the night of the 19th. Dismissed on the merits.
- September 20, 1858 – of Slane, defendant, drunk on the public street.
- January 14, 1859 – of Slane, defendant, drunk on the public street
- May 20, 1859 – of Slane, defendant, drunk on the public street
- April 4, 1863 – of Slane Pound, complainant, assault and forcibly turning himself out of his own house on March 28, 1863 and to show cause and if enough you can why you should not be bound to keep the peace. Dismissed.
- April 26, 1864 – of Woodlands, complainant, assault at said Woodlands on the 22nd by knocking him down and pulling him a distance on the ground. To pay one shilling hosts.
- August 30, 1864 – of Mooretown, complainant, illegally returning a table of comft (comfort?) at Mooretown. Dismissed on the merits.
- April 11, 1865 – of Slane, defendant, drunk on the public street at Slane on the 3rd.
- December 19, 1865 – of Slane, defendant, drunk on the public street at Slane on the 16th.
- March 27, 1866 – of Slane, defendant, 2/2% to less. No off.
Accordingly, the above Francis was a mason by profession, making it seem that he must have belonged to the lineage of Laurence Mongey and Margaret of Barstown.
Was he another son of Laurence? Were there one or two people named Francis?
Born: abt. 1859 in Ireland
Immigrated from Glasgow to New York City on August 23, 1881. A grocer.
Possibly John Mongey and Anne Hand’s son? No record in Tom Mongey’s book about George immigrating, but the facts line up. Does that mean he returned to Ireland before his marriage?
Hugh Mongy (Mogie, Moggie, Moughy, Monghy)
Born: abt. 1832, 1835, or 1840 in Ireland
Died: January 19, 1912 in Duluth, Minnesota or January 24, 1912 at the Poor Farm Hospital. Buried May 3, 1912 according to St. John’s English Evangelical Lutheran Church.
Wife: Ann Gleason (born abt. 1829 or 1830 in Ireland) – is this the same “Ann Grace” (1834-1886) on the tombstone for Mrs. Belle McCarthy?
Married on November 8, 1866 in Houghton, Houghton, Michigan. He was 29 and she was 37.
Children: Isabella (born abt. 1862, died April 12, 1915 in Duluth, widowed. Her death certificate lists her father’s place of birth as Scotland, despite census records showing Ireland) and Margaret (abt. 1864 or 1867, died June 11, 1913 or 1918 in Duluth as “Margarete Ray”), both born in Michigan. Margaret married George McLeod and Isabella (Monghy) married Daniel McCarthy on August 1, 1911 in Duluth.
Immigrated: abt. 1855
1870 Census: living in Duluth, Minnesota. Hugh was a farm laborer, age 30.
1885 Census: listed as 50 years old, “Mogie” with wife and both children. It appears Margaret “Maggie” is now married to George McLeod (born abt. 1864 in Canada) with herself being 18 years of age.
1895 Census: living in Hermantown, Minnesota, 60 years old, “Moggie,” having resided in Minnesota for 29(?) years and in that district for 4 years.
1905 Census: living in Hermantown, 75 years old, “Mogie.”
1910 Census: living in Duluth, Minnesota as an inmate of C. Melby’s house on Rice Lake Road, age 78, having immigrated in 1855 and being a naturalized citizen. Listed as Irish English.
Born: abt. 1813 in Ireland
Immigration: possibly July 19, 1849
1855 Census: in Lambertville, New Jersey (as James “Magan”).
1870 Census: a stone mason in Lambertville, New Jersey.
Died: November 13, 1880 in Lambertville, New Jersey.
Wife: Elizabeth (abt. 1825)
Children: Patrick (abt. 1843 in Ireland), Mary (abt. 1847 in Ireland), Ellen (abt. 1850, working in a flax mill), Anna (abt. 1853), and Elizabeth (abt. 1857).
Neighbors: Lynch, Obrien, Toomey, McNamara, Patterson, Smith, and Hull.
Parents: son of James and Bridget Mangan
He is included specifically because of his profession as a mason and his destination of New Jersey.
Born: abt. 1847 in Drogheda, Ireland
Discharged from the crew of the Quail in Liverpool in 1872.
Likely connected through the Drumconrath branch referenced in Tom Mongey’s update to his family tree.
Parents: Patrick Mingey and Anne McMahon
Born: November 9, 1845 in Meath, Ireland. Baptized on November 13, 1845 in Drumconrath.
His father was named as Patrick Mingey in his passport application to Jamaica. James immigrated to New York through England in June 1851 and became a citizen in New York City in October 1856. His paperwork in Jamaica attests that his father was born in Meath abt. 1826. His father died in Jackson, New York in 1912 according to family trees on Ancestry. He resided in New York, Nebraska, Colorado, Arkansas, and Florida; he also sought island climate for health reasons because of chronic bronchitis, living in Chihuahua in Mexico, Isle of Pines in Cuba, and Kingston in Jamaica.
He was married to Anne Tracey in Colorado and had two children: Alice (1894) and Mary (1896).
1860 Census: living in New York with his mother, Ann, and sister, Alice. His father is found a page ahead as Patrick “Mingan.” This proves that his immediate family immigrated with him, leaving Ireland.
1870 Census: possibly as James “Mankey” in New York, age 24.
John Ted Moungey
Died: December 1961 in Escambia, Florida.
Related though my Moungey family from Wisconsin or through William or Michael Moungey’s line from Louisiana?
Born: abt. 1822 in Ireland
1850 Census: living in Rahway, New Jersey with Timothy, Thomas, and Michael, possible siblings.
John Mungey/Mungay (sig. Mungy)
Born: abt. 1840 in Ireland
Enlisted on August 22, 1862 at Brooklyn, New York for the Union Army for a period of three years, age 22, a stone polisher by occupation. 5’ 6” in height, blue eyes, light brown hair, light complexion.
Died: May 30, 1864 at Old Church Tavern in Virginia (Mechanicsville?) during the Battle of Old Church, killed in action. His last rank was a private.
John M. Mungey
Born: abt. 1840 in New York
Enlisted on August 3, 1864 for the Union Army from the returns of Chicago Illinois, age 24, a clerk. 5’ 4” in height, blue eyes, sandy brown hair, fair complexion, scar on back of right shoulder. Residing in the eighteenth district of Winnebago County, Illionois.
Is this John Mungey the same as the above, who was listed as killed in action?
Born: abt. 1791
Wife: Mary (abt. 1792), surname should be Brady.
Children: Mathew (abt. 1820)
1821 Census: living in Rathcorick, Cavan, Ireland. A son-in-law to the farmer Mathew Brady (abt. 1774).
Daughter should be the Rose Mongey shown below. Rose was married to a Lynch, Watterson, and De La Vega.
Wife: Margret Dolan
Children: Rose Westerson (abt. 1848, married Henry De La Vega on October 28, 1884 in Jersey City, New Jersey)
Is he the son of the supposed Patrick Mongey, of whom Tom Mongey wrote was of the Barstown/Deerpark family? Tom noted that this Laurence “probably first moved from home to Furzyhill. He later moved to Drumconrath and settled there.” It would seem to make sense that, if he was Patrick’s son, he might have been named after his father’s brother, Laurence of Barstown. Otherwise, is it possible that more children existed between our Laurence and Margaret?
Children: Mary Minguy (1782, witnessed by Larken and Finegan), Ann Minghy (1784, witnessed by Smith), Thomas Mongey (1786, witnessed by Campel and Martin), Bridget Minghy (1793, witnessed by Smyth), all in the Nobber parish.
Laurence Mongey and Elizabeth Mullen
On daughter Bridget’s 1851 Census Extract Return, she was noted that she was apparently the 7th child. There must have been three other children that have been lost on Tom Mongey’s tree. Who were they?
Born: abt. 1869
Died: 1902, age 33, buried April 28 in Holy Cross Cemetery in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. St. Michael’s parish.
Husband: William Markey (Born: abt. 1834. Died December 29, 1892 in Ladyrath, Ireland)
Children: John (1866), Nicholas (1869), Mary (1871), Teresa (1878), registered in the Castletown district.
Mary -, married Mungory
Born: abt. 1804 in Ireland
Children: Jane (abt. 1824), John (abt. 1826), Ellen (abt. 1829), Catherine (abt. 1834), James (abt. 1837), Mary (abt. 1840).
1841 Census: a char woman in West Derby, England. Denotes the children were born in Lancashire. Neighbors were Barney and Mary Murphy.
Mary Murphy, married Mongey
Parents: Henry Murphy and Julia.
Born: May 25, 1829 in Ireland
Died: July 31, 1911 in Brooklyn, New York. 62 years in the United States (immigrated abt. 1849). Buried in Holy Cross Cemetery.
This is Patrick, the Civil War hero’s wife. He died in Brooklyn in 1916. This part of the family has been linked to the family tree.
Mentioned in an 1896 Catholic directory. It is assumed she was a nun.
“The Society was introduced into the United States in 1853 by the venerable Mademoiselle Anne Pauget , Madame Victorine Boucher , Miss Ernestine Nardin , Madame Marie Le Masson , Mademoiselle Veronica Le Claire , Miss Marie Mongey…”
Born: abt. 1830 in Ireland
Died: February 25, 1871 in New Orleans, Louisiana
Fought in the Union Army in the Civil War with the 1st Regiment, Louisiana Infantry. Enlisted as a private and exited as a corporal.
Wife: Julia A. Smith (census records imply that she was born in 1834, 1842, and 1845 in Ireland) and possibly died May 20, 1900. After Michael’s death, she married James McCowan/ McGowan, a blacksmith who was born in Scotland.
Michael was a blacksmith in New Orleans. He died from a gunshot wound at Charity Hospital. Newspapers reported that he was brutally beating his wife and got into a fight with the police when they entered the home.
- Mary, born February 01, 1865 and died February 19, 1865 in New Orleans.
- William, born February 02, 1868 (according to his headstone, other records indicate 1865), and died March 05, 1913 in Mobile, Alabama. Records indicate that he was possibly a former blacksmith, though later he was a grocery clerk. He married Lilly Ellis January 25, 1901 in Mobile. It appears his line temporarily took on the McCowan/McGowan name, and his son, John, was referenced as “M’Gowan.”
- -, a stillborn child was born on November 27, 1869 in New Orleans.
- Margret, born either in 1862 or 1869. She was married to Bertenus Christian Jacobs (also with children referenced das “Jacobson”) on March 01, 1886 in Mobile. Later, she married Andrew Johnson on August 27, 1897 in Mobile. By the 1910 census, it appears this marriage did not last.
I believe Michael was the brother of William Moungey, a caulker in Louisiana, eventually moving to Pensacola, Florida. They were both named on the 1850 Census as “Mongin,” both sawyers by trade. DNA confirms our relation through four small matches.
Unsure if this is the same Michael Moungey as above.
Born: abt. 1833 in Meath, Ireland
Enlisted in the U.S. Army for a period of five years on October, 20 1857 in St. Louis at the age of 24. He was a laborer, 5’ 11 1/2” tall, grey eyes, red hair, fair complexion. Discharged on November 28, 1857 for disability at Newport Barracks in Kentucky as a recruit.
Born: abt. 1852 in Meath
Enlisted in the Royal Irish Constabulary in 1875.
Notes that he emigrated to the U.S.A. (FHL Film: 856067 page 187)
Born: abt. 1818 in Ireland
Wife: Margaret, born abt. 1822.
Children: Patrick (abt. 1846), Julia (abt. 1849), Thomas (abt. 1851), Christopher (abt. 1853)—all born in New York, and Mary (abt. 1857) and Margaret (abt. 1859)—both born in Pennsylvania.
1860 Census: Patrick was a laborer with a personal estate worth only $15, living in Bradford, McKean, Pennsylvania. Neighbors included John Cahill from Ireland.
A thorough search of the areas they were supposed to live in turned up nothing before or after the 1860 Census.
Is he perhaps the son of Peter Mingy and Rose Clarke from Drumconrath, baptized November 21, 1819?Or, is he perhaps the son of James Mankey and Ann, baptized in Castletown on May 15, 1821?
Parents: Lawrence Mengey and Margret Dolan
Born: abt. 1844 or 1851
Died: August 26, 1900 in Jersey City, New Jersey at the age of 49 years old. Died as Rose De La Vega. (Her age at the time of death is suspect.)
Immigrated: according to the 1900 Census, she immigrated about 1880, which does not line up with the facts. It also claimed that she was a mother of five children with only two still living; the math must have been incorrect, as both those together total the number of children she had. Confusingly, there was another Thomas in the area who married Rose Mullen. They are two distinct families, as far as I can tell.
These appear to be in Jersey City.
With Thomas Lynch, who died of consumption in November 1870, age 33:
- Philip Lynch, born October 22, 1864 (Rose “Muskey”)
- Laurence/Lawrence Lynch, born June 20 or 22, 1866, died December 15, 1867. Buried in Saint Peter’s Catholic Cemetery. (Rose “Mongoy”) His father was listed as “James” on a birth index and “Francis” on a death index; possible mistranscription?
- Mary Lynch, born January 15, 1869.
- Margaret Lynch, born July 20, 1870, died January 1871. (Rose Mongey)
With Henry Watterson:
- Henry Watterson, born November 4, 1875. (“Rosanna Monjay”)
- William Watterson, born November 6, 1878. (Rose “Mornigey”)
- Joseph Watterson, born October 22, 1880. (Rose “Munsey”)
She also had a step-daughter, presumably from an earlier marriage Henry Watterson must have had:
- Sarah “Wetterson,” born August 18, 1868
She was finally married to Henry De La Vega, being married to him for 16 years by the time of the 1900 Census.
DNA confirms the connection of this Mongey family.
Born: abt. 1825 in Ireland
Died: presumably buried May 3, 1879 in Holy Cross Cemetery.
Wife: Ellen (abt. 1818 or 1825)
Children: (bearing the Cummon/Carson/Curion surname—relation unknown) Catharine (abt. 1843), Ellen (abt. 1845 or 1846), Christopher (abt. 1847 or 1848)
They resided in Brooklyn, New York.
1850 Census: possibly the entry listed for “Thos. Mangy,” outlined in this study. This has not been confirmed, as there were at least two Mongeys named Thomas early in New York.
1855 Census: Spelled “Mongay.” Here, Thomas is 27 (abt. 1828), naturalized with voting rights, having resided in the district for seven years and his wife for twelve, and his profession looks like “Grain.” Ellen was 37 years old. He and his wife were from Ireland, and her children were born in Kings County, New York. Neighbors were Pheiney and Carson/Corson.
1860 Census: Spelled “Mungy.” A plasterer in Brooklyn, New York. The widow Bridget Gill and her daughter Mary lived with the family. Neighbors were: McGowan and Murray
1864 City Directory: Spelled “Mungey.” Living on Vanderbilt Avenue. He was a mason.
1870 Census: Spelled “Monger.” Thomas is 40 (abt. 1820), a plasterer, while his wife Ellen (50 year old) was keeping house. Her son, Christopher (21) is a soap maker.
1875 Census: Spelled “Mungay.” Thomas is 45, Ellen is 55, and they are living in a brick house. Neighbors: Rowan
Ellen Mungey, likely born Clark
She is the wife of Thomas Mungey, shown above.
Siblings: Patrick Clark of Brooklyn, Ann Smith of Sullivan County, Elizabeth Cloonan of Brooklyn, and Mary Dunn of Brooklyn. She also had nephews through Matthew Smith. Her cousin, James Parker, was the son of Elizabeth Parker in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. Ellen made her last will and testament on July 31, 1886. She resided at 583 Vanderbilt Avenue. The publication of the probate and its contest was in the newspapers in February 1891.
Born: abt. 1825 in Ireland
Wife: Catherine (abt. 1825)
Children: Mary Ann (abt. 1853), Margaret (abt. 1859), Thomas (abt. 1861)
1865 Census: 40 years old, he and his wife from Ireland, naturalized, (difficult to read but looks like he was a porter), and all three of his children were born in Albany, New York, where the family then resided.
Is this the same William Mongey (born May 20, 1868 in Kilcairne) who was an electrician and worked at a hotel? Tom Mongey did not record him as having a wife named Annie.
Born: abt. 1860 in Ireland
Immigrated: abt. 1862, residing in the U.S. for 38 years.
Wife: Annie, born abt. 1862 in Ireland.
1900 Census: He was a telegraph lineman in the Town of West Orange, New Jersey. They had been married for 10 years (since abt. 1890) without any children. That would possibly place their marriage as back in Ireland, prior to immigrating.
Based on his profession, I strongly believe this to be the same William who worked at the Hotel Wellington, who was married to Ellen T. Howley. This must mean he either married in Ireland or shortly after immigrating, and his first wife, Annie, must have died prior to the 1905 Census, where William’s wife is listed as Ellen. The 1910 Census provides that they were married for 11 years.
In Detroit, Michigan. Mentioned in published list of letters in the Detroit Free Press on May 1, 1849.
I believe him to be Michael Moungey’s brother.
Born: abt. 1824, 1827, or 1834 in Ireland
The first record of him is possibly from The Philadelphia Saving Fund Society on December 28, 1848, that “Wm Moung” resided in Philadelphia with a note about “Sch… 6th & Filbert.” I believe “Sch…” stands for “Schuyle,” as found on other pages. He was a lieutenant in the Navy. It is possible that this is a different person entirely. However, it stands to reason that perhaps the family arrived in Pennsylvania. This is further established by the 1850 Census on November 18, 1850 in the Parish of Orleans, Louisiana. At that time, the census recorded him as “Wm. Mangey,” age 27, a sailor, born in Pennsylvania, living at the boarding house in the city of New Orleans. Perhaps he was enumerated twice during this census year, as a second record exists. Earlier, on August 15, 1850, William “Mongin” was recorded as residing on the right banks of the Parish of Orleans. Here, he is 23 years of age, a sawyer by trade, born in Ireland. His presumed brother, Michael, is 21 years old and was also a sawyer. They were living in the residence of John and Mary Riley, ages 20 and 23 respectively, with their one-year old son, James. Other familiar names can be seen in close proximity, such as Grogan, Martin, Lynch, and McCarty.
Sometime after 1850, William married Ann Biggin. William’s citizenship on October 27, 1857 showed that he had applied on May 9, 1853, having resided in Algiers in New Orleans. By the 1860 Census, the family had permanently moved to Escambia County, Florida. During this census year, they were living in “The Navy Yard and Vicinity.” Here, he is age 23 (should this be 33?), a caulker by trade. Others in the neighborhood were ship carpenters, sail makers, and brick layers; again we see Irish names such as McCarty and O’Neal. Both he and his wife were from Ireland, she being 27 years old. Their children Mary (age 8), Margaret (age 5), and Kate (age 3), were all born in Louisiana. Other information alludes to at least some of them being born in Algiers. Their youngest daughter, Ann, was 6/12 of a year old, denoted as born in Ireland; had the family returned to their homeland to visit? He enlisted for the Civil War in 1864 at the age of 40 at Woolsey, Florida on the Louisiana form. It confirms he was married. On the 1870 Census, William is 45 years old, a shipwright from Ireland with $300 worth of personal estate living in Pensacola. His wife, Annie, was 40, keeping house, also from Ireland. His children were: Mary (16), Margaret (13), Kate (11), all born in Louisiana, and Jane (5), Alice (4), and John (3), all born in Florida. The 1880 Census seems to miss the family, but the 1885 Census confirms the family was still in Pensacola. William, now 58, his wife Ann (50), Mary (25), M. (22), Anna (19), Jennie (18), Alice (17), and John (16) were listed. This time, only Mary and “M.” were born in Louisiana.
1900 Census in Pensacola: N. Moungey, female, born February 1831, widowed, 9 children, six of whom were still living, immigrated in 1850, residing in the U.S. for 50 years, cannot read or write, and has “Na” for “naturalized” crossed out on the line. Was this entry for Ann? It’s curious that the entry showed she was widowed, when Escambia County records show William died in 1902. At that time, Maggie (1859, born in Louisiana), and other children born in Florida, Annie (1864), “Alise” (1867), and John (1870), were living at the residence.
They had the following known children:
- Mary, born abt. April 25, 1853 in Algiers, Louisiana, died June 12, 1898 in Pensacola, Florida. Unmarried.
- Margaret, born July 17, 1856 in Louisiana (likely Algiers), died August 21, 1935 in Pensacola. Unmarried.
- Catherine “Kate,” born abt. 1857 with her death certificate stating March 16, 1862 in Algiers. Because of the 1860 Census, it is more likely that Kate was born March 16, sometime between 1857 and 1859. She was married to James Kanen, a ship carpenter, for 25 years in 1910 with no children. Kate died July 18, 1920 in Pensacola.
- Ann, born abt. January 1860 (FindAGrave lists 1859) in either Ireland or Florida. She died May 01, 1944 in Pensacola. Unmarried.
- Jennie (Janie), born abt. 1864, likely in Escambia County. She was married to Frank Bond, a blacksmith, around 1885, having five children by the 1910 census, four that were living at the time of her death on March 03, 1932 in Pensacola.
- John P., born in 1867 in Florida and died October 12, 1944 in Pensacola. No known children.
William’s definitive origin in Ireland is still unknown.
Is this the William Mongey born in 1856 in Crossane? Tom Mongey wrote about a William from the Grangegeeth branch who married at 15 and immigrated to America. If this is the same William, I have questions surrounding the circumstances of his immigration alone—did his wife, Catherine Boyle, die? Furthermore, is this the same William Hugh Mongey mentioned as having Richard Mongey in 1888 in Belfast with Agnes Marquis?
Born: abt. 1857 in Ireland
Immigrated through Livepool and Queenstown, arriving in New York on June 5, 1882.
Born: abt. 1786 of Ireland
1841 Census: a gardener in Liberty of Earley, Sonning, England
Was he related to Mary Mongey and her children in West Derby in 1841?
Died (?). Entry dated November 19, 1818 in America. Recorded in the list of dead in the church book for Drumconrath.
A search through emigration records shows a Rose Mengey departing Liverpool on November 11, 1818 with two children.
Possibly Related – Further Evidence Needed
Married to Bridget Cromer on September 9, 1834 in Delvin, Westmeath
Born on the Isle of Guernsey.
Daughter is Emilia Sophia Dundas
1858 and 1873 in Ross
Born: abt. 1824 in Ireland
Wife: Nancy (abt. 1824)
Immigrated: June 26, 1849 from Liverpool to New York City.
Living in Habersham, Georgia for the 1830 Census
Born: abt. 1827 in Ireland
Wife: Ann (abt. 1827 in Ireland)
1850 Census: laborer in Detroit, Michigan
Living with Lucy Corney (abt. 1810)
Born: abt. 1826
Immigrated through Belfast to New York, arriving on May 17, 1846, originating in Great Britain.
Born: abt. 1832 in Ireland
1850 Census: in New York City, New York
Children: Patrick (1821 in Castletown-Kilpatrick)
Married on November 30, 1907 in Beauparc and Yellow Furze
Born: abt. 1834
On the 1870 and 1871 voter rolls.
Born: abt. 1840 in Ireland
1850 Census: a railroad conductor in New York City, New York
Born: abt 1826.
Immigrated through Liverpool to Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, arriving on May 19, 1847.
Born: abt. 1837 in Ireland.
1885 Census: Of St. Paul, Minnesota.
Wife: Katie, born abt. 1854
Children: Mary (abt. 1879), Michael (abt. 1881), Bessie (abt. 1883), and John (abt. 1885). All born in Minnesota.
John F. Mankey
Born: abt. 1837 in Ireland
Discharged from military in 1866.
Daughter: Eliza Jane Mankey of Adams, Massachusetts
Born: abt. 1836 in Ireland
1860 Census: a stone cutter in New Orleans, Louisiana
Born: abt. 1840/1842 in Ireland
1855 Census: a servant, living with the Steel family with other servants Carmichael and Hornsbey, residing in Lumberland, New York for 10/12 of a year.
John Joseph Mongey
Born: in Workington, England
Died: Subsequent to April 3, 1949 at Stanley Sailors Hospital in Holyhead, Wales.
Seeman: radio operator
J. Mongey (possibly the same as above)
31 years old, chief radio, British, seamen records
John Peter Maungey
Born: abt. 1836, son of John Maungey
Married to Louisa Ann Birch on July 30, 1856 in Calcutta, India
John William Mingay
Wife: P… Emily Jones
Children: John William Mingay (born: August 25, 1875 in Ontario)
40 years old, immigrated from England to the U.S.A.
Naturalized in Chicago in 1898.
Wife: Mary Dwyer
Children: Mary (abt. 1887 in Chicago, Illinois. Married Frank DeLaurier in 1911).
Born: abt. 1836
Immigrated on November 27, 1910 from Queenstown, Ireland to New York. Of Kings…., (Kingston?) Ireland. Listed as of American nationality, naturalized by the court of common pleas in New York City on October 23, 1860. Going to see his niece, Mrs. Ma. Gelagarty.
A doctor in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania in 1800.
Wife: Helen Sillen
Children: Hannah, married Edward Nixon in Guelph in 1860.
1868 in Ross
Principal/president of Baldwin Academy in Louisiana in 1891.
Kate -, widowed Mengay
Born: abt 1861 in Navan, Ireland
Departed Queenstown, Ireland for Brooklyn, New York in 1914. Sister in the U.S. was Bessie Olsen
Born: abt. 1810 in Ireland
1870 Census: no business
Children: John (abt. 1835), Walter (abt. 1842), Edward (abt. 1840), and Laurence (abt. 1859), all born in Ireland.
Wife: Mary Nulty
Children: John (1834 in Drumconrath), Walter (1840)
1901 Census: farmer in Ardagh, nephew to Margaret Nulty (abt. 1825)
1911 Census: farmer in Ardagh, cousin John Cunningham
Same as the family above?
Born: abt. 1810 in Ireland
Children: John (abt. 1835, an engine builder/wood moulder), Laurence (abt. 1849, a cooper), and Walter (abt. 1842, a collar maker), Edward (abt. 1840, a clerk), James (born abt. 1840, a railroad conductor, married to Bridget). Living with Alice Nulty (abt. 1830)/Mary Nulty and Agnes McCann (abt. 1855 in New York). All from Ireland except Agnes McCann.
1870 Census: Laurence had no profession.
1860 Census: possibly the same family. Laurence Mingay worked in a grocery store, born abt. 1805 with wife Mary, born abt. 1804. Children: James (abt. 1844, a laborer), John (abt. 1846, a moulder), Patrick (abt. 1838, a clerk), Michael (abt. 1840, a blacksmith), Walter (abt. 1842, a harness/hamen (?) maker), Edward (abt. 1844, a clerk), Laurence (abt. 1846), Frances (abt. 1849), and a James Farley (abt. 1842, a tailor) living in New York City.
Born: abt. 1813 in Ireland
Arrived in New Orleans from Liverpool on December 11, 1848, age 33 or 25. He was a smith.
Wife: Mary (abt. 1813)
Married to Thomas Hogan on January 31, 1830 in Armagh
Married June 4, 1818 in Beauparc, Meath, Ireland.
Husband: James Reilly
- Nicholas (1832, sponsors Francis Mongy and Jane Smyth)
- Patrick born March 17, 1833. According to a family tree on Ancestry: “No birth/baptism record found yet to formally tie Patrick to this family. Verbal history/tradition says Patrick was born in Dunshaughlin and not Beauparc and Yellow Furze, Meath, Ireland.” This same source lists an alternate birth date of October 31, 1831.
- Other siblings without much of a source: George (1820), Hugh (1827—in Athboy?), John (1827—wrong mother, Bridget Mooney), Mary (1827, sponsors are Merryman and Lawless), James (1831). Of these, only Mary appears to be a possibility for this family without further documentation.
Born: abt. 1813, from Great Britain
Immigrated through Liverpool, arriving at New York on August 1, 1843
Margaret -, married Monkey
Born: abt. 1819 in Ireland
Died: October 19, 1892 in Brooklyn, New York. Buried in Holy Cross Cemetery.
Widowed, in the United States for 60 years. (Immigrated abt. 1832.)
Born: abt. 1826 in Ireland
1850 Census: a stone cutter in My District, Virginia
Born: abt. 1821 in Ireland.
1851 Census: Of East Gwillimbury, York, Ontario. Catholic. Laborer. Residing outside of limits.
Wife: Bridget, born abt. 1821
Children: Michael (abt. 1836), Patrick (abt. 1838), and Mary (abt. 1839). All Irish.
Neighbors: Kelly, Brogan, Shapell.
Born: abt. 1820 in Ireland
1860 Census: a farm hand in Dunkirk, New York.
Wife: Catherine (abt. 1824).
Children: Mary (abt. 1854) and James (abt. 1852).
Neighbors: Ryan, Flannagan, and Mack.
Of Skryne and Dunshaughlin.
1858 in Skryne
1870 in Dunshaughlin
Born: abt. 1822
Immigrated to New York on April 17, 1851 from Great Britain through Liverpool.
Born: abt. 1832 in Ireland
1860 Census: laborer in New York City, New York
Children: Andrew Mingey (abt. 1855)
Other people: Bridget Mingey (abt. 1832)
Naturalized: October 18 1866 in New York City, of 73 King Street.
Wife: Ann Simon
Children: Mary (1795 in Ardcath)
Wife: Catherine Corke
Children: Catherine (1823 in Drumconrath)
Wife: Margaret Hagan
Children: Rose (1852 in Armagh)
Wife: Ann Murray
Children: Mary Ann (1872 in Dundalk, Louth)
Born: abt. 1836 in Ireland
Wife: Mary A. (abt. 1838)
1860 Census: living in New York City as a laborer.
Is this the same Patrick who married Mary Murphy?
Born: abt. 1826 in Meath, Ireland
Died: May 12, 1912 in Troy, New York. Buried in Cambridge, Washington, New York.
Immigrated to the U.S. in 1851.
Wife: Anna McMahon
Children: James F. Mingey (abt. November 9, 1845 [or 1854?] in Meath, Ireland and married Anna Tracy)
Born: abt. 1821 in Ireland
Admitted to the almshouse in New York City on March 27, 1841.
Died July 23, 1841 in New York City, New York.
Born: abt. 1836 in Ireland. Of Drumconrath
Children: Mary Ann (abt. 1861), Alice P. (abt. 1864), Laurence B. (abt. 1866), John F. (abt. 1867), Jenny (abt. 1872), and Maggie (abt. 1878) in New York City.
In 1859 and 1864, living at 71 King Street.
1860 Census: in New York City, married within the year.
1870 Census: in New York City, a porter of dry goods
1880 Census: in New York City, a porter
Is there overlap in the records of Patrick Mongey, the Civil War hero who eventually lived at 343 39th Street in Brooklyn and this Patrick Mingey?
Born: abt. 1823
Immigrated through Liverpool to New York on August 5, 1851 from Ireland.
Wife: Mary Conry
Children: Anne (1795 in Ardee)
P. Mungy and Co.
1849 Quebec notorial records
Seven Days Battle, Virginia, June 27, 1862, rank: corporal.
Born: abt. 1833
Immigrated through Liverpool to Boston on March 22, 1871
Born: abt. 1826 in Ireland.
1870 Census: laborer in New Barbados, New Jersey.
Wife: Caroline (abt. 1836)
Children: Jane (abt. 1854), Thomas(abt. 1856), Caroline (abt. 1858), Jemima (abt. 1860), Elisabett (abt. 1864)
Born: abt. 1834 in Ireland
1880 Census: laborer in Syracuse, New York
Wife: Julia (abt. 1835)
Children: Anna G. (abt. 1874 in New York)
Born: abt. 1827 in Ireland
Arrived from Liverpool in New York on March 20, 1850.
Born: abt. 1817 in Ireland
Arrived in New York from Dublin on April 30, 1847.
1851 Census: in Portneuf, Quebec (indexed as Mangery)
Born: abt. 1833 in Ireland.
1870 Census: boiling salt in Syracuse, New York.
Wife: Bridget (abt. 1835 in Ireland)
Children: Mary Pontbrient (abt. 1856) and James Manigan (abt. 1857).
Born: abt. 1823 in Ireland
1850 Census: in New York City, New York. One of the people he was living with was a mason.
Neighbors: McSorly, Fletcher
Wife: Mary Clarke
Children: Anne (abt. 1791 in Clonmellon)
Born: abt. 1834
Died: February 23, 1860 in Mount Aboo, India
Thomas A. Mingey
Born: abt. 1823
Died: March 24,1894 in St. Petersburg, Florida.
Obituary in Chicago, Illinois. Siblings: George C. Mingey, Veronica Clarno, Colette Mingey.
Children: Delia Goulter
Born: abt 1829
Immigrated from Liverpool to New York City on June 4, 1849, a laborer from England
1513 probate in Topsam, Devon, England.
The following is also found in An Old Exeter Manuscript, starting on page 57:
26. MUNGEY OR MONGEY FAMILY, TOPSHAM.—In the south-east porch of St. Margaret's, the parish church of Topsham, where there is very constant traffic, is to be found what I believe to be the oldest inscribed memorial in the church. The greater portion of the lettering has been worn away by the feet of worshippers, but such as remains I think is worth preserving. The illustration gives some some idea of the condition of the stone, which is of Purbeck marble, about 5ft. by 3ft. 6in. The oldest inscription, dated 1525, reads: —"Pray for ye solle of Mathon. Mugey ye wch depted ye 12 day of . . . ." Two other individuals, anxious for a cheap memorial, have used the plain centre of this stone for their own record, one of which reads: "Here lyeth the body of Nicolas Elsdon, merchant, was buried the .... day of August.” The Elsdons were a numerous family in Topsham at this time and Nicolas Elsdon, who was buried on the 12th August, 1644, was churchwarden from 1634 to 1636. I believe the upper inscription is also to one of the Elsdon families, but the lettering is so much worn that it is indecipherable. With regard to the Mungey or Mongey family, I have found in the P.C.C. at Somerset House, the will of Thomas Mongey, the father of Mathew, whose memorial is here reproduced. I add an abbreviated copy of Thomas Mongey's will, shipowner and merchant, of Topsham, dated 10th January, 1513-4, and proved 22nd March, 1513-4, also of his son, Mathew Mongey, dated the 1st August, 1524, proved 1525. The above-mentioned Mathew was a man of considerable importance in the village, and is mentioned in the will of William Shere, 1523, whose executor and relative he was. He owned part of the Manor of Chardstock, Dorset. It will be noticed that Mathew Mongey desired to be buried in the Church of Holy Mary, Topsham. In another will I find that the Fraternity of St. Mary, in the parish church of Topsham, is mentioned. I believe that this was a chantry, and that the altar may have been placed near the old piscina in the bottom of the tower. I shall be much obliged if any of your readers who may have interesting manuscripts in connection with this parish, either wills or deeds of property or records of old inhabitants, will oblige me with the loan of them with a view to compiling a history of this interesting parish. P.C.C. (Fetiplace, 33.) Will of Thomas Mungey, of Topsham, co. Devon. Dated :— l0th January 1513 (4). I bequeath to the parish church of St. Margaret, Topsham, £8. To William Moyne, £8. To Thomas Mungey, £8. To the Convent of the Black Friars, Exeter, 6/8 & to the Grey Friars there, 6/8. To Nicholas at Will, £8. To my servants, Mary the elder & Eliz. More, 40/- each. To my other servants, 20d each and to my godchildren, 12d each. To a priest to sing for me for four years, £24. To Richard Mungey, £4. To my son, Mathew, my ship called the "Gabriel." To my daughter, Joan, £20, to find her until she be 15 years of age, and then £100 for her marriage. Residuary legatee & executrix :—My wife, Christian. Supervisors :—Sir William Smythe & Nicholas Sketyn, & give to each 40/-. Witnesses :— Sir Charles Pitford, curate there, Roger Michill, William Atwill, Ambrose Havell, Thomas Elly and others. Proved :—22d March, 1513-4, by Wm. Crowland, procurator to the relict. P.C.C. (Bodfelde, 35.) (Latin.) Will of Mathew Mongey of Topsham, co. Devon. Dated :— 1 Aug. 1524. I desire to be buried in the Church of Holy Mary, Topsham. I bequeath to the cathedral of Exeter, 20/- ; to Topsham Church for tithes forgotten, &c., 10/- ; to St. Margaret's for vestments, £3-6-8. To each of my sons and daughters, £10, at their coming of age. To my wife, Joan, all the interest & term I have by assignment of Wm. Shere, in co. Dorset, & in all lands, Mills, &c., specified in an Indenture made between Henry, Bishop of Salisbury & Wm. Shere, dated in the Feast of St. Michael the Archangel, 16 Henry VII, for the term of years therein specified. I desire my wife to have prayers said for my soul and that of said Wm. Shere, my parents, &c, in the Church of Topsham, to be paid out of the profits of Chardestock Manor. To my curate, John Picton, to pray for my soul, 3/4. Res. leg. & ex'x :—My said wife, Joan. Supervisor :—Hugh Prest & give him for his trouble 20/-. Witnesses : Sir John Picton, curate, Sir Wm. Smyth, clerk, Peter Tailor, Henry Tanke, John Marshall, Henry Birde and others. Proved :—10 July 1525, by John Talkay, public notary, procurator to sd Joan, relict & executrix. H. Wilson Holman.
Born: abt. 1836 English.
Immigrated from Liverpool to Baltimore in August 1866.
Wife: Eliza (abt. 1836)
Children: Joseph (infant)
Immigrated with: Ann Mongey (abt. 1840), Susan Mongey (abt. 1839)
Likely of French descent.
Born: abt. 1832
Children: Thomas, Marie Helen, Eugenie, Angela, and David
1851 Census: shows his parents and siblings.
1891 Census: in Montreal East, Quebec. Denotes father was born in Quebec.
Born: abt. 1830 in Ireland
1855 Census: a servant in Goshen, Orange, New York, having resided there for one year.
Is he related to Patrick Mongey, who enlisted in the Union Army from Goshen in 1864?
Age unknown, born in Nova Scotia.
Lodger in Detroit in 1920.
William Mogney (Moiney/Moyney?)
Born: abt. 1763 in Ireland
1821 Census: Drumullin, Cavan, Ireland
Children: James (abt. 1791), Patrick (abt. 1796), Michael (abt. 1800), William (abt. 1805), Ann (abt. 1806)
Born: abt. 1834 in Ireland
Husband: David Book/Booke
Married August 3, 1856 in Paterson, Passaic, New Jersey
1860 Census: David working as a laborer in Hackensack, New Jersey
Children: Mary (abt. 1858) and Ann (abt. 1859, married Arnoldi)
Possible, But Unlikely – Further Evidence Needed
Born: abt. 1831 in Ireland.
1850 Census: in Rhode Island
Died: 1861 in Montreal, Quebec
Wife of Antoine Marell?
Likely of French descent.
Born: June 7, 1835 in New York, USA. 1870 and 1880 censuses indicate Michigan.
Died: July 1, 1915 in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Wife: Rebecca (1870 census forward)/Rachael (1860 census?)
Parents were both born in Ireland.
Born: abt. 1805 in Ireland.
1850 Census: Laborer in Manlius, Onondaga, New York
Wife: Rose (abt. 1811)
Children: Christopher, Bridget, Thomas, John, James, Mary, Richard.
Born: abt. 1820 in Ireland.
1850 Census: Nursery/Grocery Man? in Geddes, Onondaga, New York
Children: Timothy, Mary, Margaret, Hellen.
Others: Catherine Buckley (abt. 1790), Daniel Manga (abt. 1820)
Born: abt. 1821 in Canada
Children: Joseph, William, Selina
1855 Census: a laborer in Litchburg, Massachusetts
Likely of German descent. Interesting due to the proximity to Detroit and Guelph.
Husband: William Gott
Children: Ellen Elizabeth (born August 10, 1868 in Amherstburg, Ontario, died April 9, 1944 in Windsor, Ontario). She had a brother named William who signed her death certificate. Her obituary lists William, George E., and Annie as her siblings.
The information below is subject to review. Based on the above information, the following is believed to be true:
Parents: Joseph Rouse and Sarah Munger
Born: May 24, 1840 in Ontario (abt. 1836 according to the 1861 census—if that is the correct family. 1871 shows abt. 1840.)
Died: July 13, 1909 in Windsor, Ontario.
Husband: William Gott (born abt. 1834), a shoemaker
- William born abt. 1856-1858 in Amherstburg, Ontario, died in 1950 in Windsor, Ontario
- George Elliott born June 4, 1859 in Amherstburg, died May 29, 1944 in Windsor. Mother was listed as Margaret Rouse.
- Elizabeth born abt. 1860
- James born abt. 1861, died April 5, 1903 in Essex
- Ellen Elizabeth born abt. 1863 [August 10, 1868 in Amherstburg, Ontario], died April 9, 1944 in Windsor, Ontario. Mother listed as Margaret Mongee.
- Alexander born abt. 1867
- Theodore G. born abt. 1870, died October 16, 1916 in Essex County. Mother listed as Margaret Munger.
- Ann/Annie born abt. 1865 (September 12, 1868) in Colchester Township, died October 4, 1946 in Windsor. Her brother William witnessed the death certificate. Mother listed as Margaret Grouse.
Another Margaret, married Gott—does not appear to be related in any sense. This record was found in confusion of researching the above-named Margaret Munger.
Born: abt. 1811 in Ireland
Died: March 8, 1891 in Proton, Grey, Ontario. Farmer’s widow, Methodist.
Husband: William Gott (abt. 1811 in Ireland)
Children: Thomas (abt. 1848 in Ireland), John (abt. 1850 or 1852 in Ireland)
1851 Census: farmer in Proton, South Grey, Ontario. Belonged to the Church of England.
Michael Monngae, Mangin/Mangan
Born: abt. 1835 or abt. 1839 in Ireland, a stonecutter residing in Brookline, Massachusetts
Parents: Patrick Mangin and Honora – (or Parents: Patrick Mangan and Hannorah Castello in Ireland)
Wife: Mary Lamey (abt. 1836), daughter of Jeremiah Lamey and Bridget -, married on November 21, 1858 in Roxbury, Massachusetts (died August 4, 1881).
Died: January 3, 1899 in Boston, Massachusetts. He was a stonecutter.
Children: Patrick J. (abt. 1860, a hotel waiter, later also a stonecutter), Marie (abt. 1863), Michael J. (abt. 1864-1866 in Boston), Theresa (abt. 1868), Mary (abt. 1869)
Mangan Family in Brooklyn, New York
The Catholic Cemeteries Diocese of Brooklyn lists pages of people bearing the surname Mangan and variations of it. While the possibility exists that our family is hidden amongst the multitudes, the search is a fruitless exercise. This is a similar situation regarding the vast quantities of the Monger/Munger names scattered about North America.
Born: abt. 1815 in Ireland
1850 Census: Laborer in New York City, New York
Wife: Eliza (abt. 1826)
Others: John Rearden (abt. 1813)
Born: abt. 1783 in Ireland
1850 Census: Laborer in New York City, New York
Wife: Mary (abt. 1800)
Children: Margaret (abt. 1824), John (abt. 1825), Michael (abt. 1827), Mary (abt. 1831), Ellen (abt. 1833), Patrick (abt. 1838)
Born: abt. 1810
Wife: Margaret (abt. 1822)
Child: Mary (abt. 1850)
Hartigan families on same census pages
Michael Mangan (abt. 1815) might have been from County Clare or Kilkenny.
Born: abt. 1802 in Ireland
1850 Census: Cabman in New York City, New York
Wife: Mary (abt. 1804)
Children: Michael (abt. 1825, a stonecutter), James? (abt. 1827), and Joanna (abt. 1837)
Born: abt. 1817 in Ireland
Immigrated: May 18, 1847 from Liverpool to New York.
Children: John and Bridget.
Born: abt. 1861 in England
Birth: August 12, 1896 in Brooklyn, New York
Died: February 9, 1899 in Brooklyn, New York
Buried: February 10, 1899 in Brooklyn, New York. East Flatbush, St. Michael’s plot.